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SouSTAR
I am not uploading anything for the time being because I feel I've done a huge mistake on how to handle copyright things.
I'm keeping this account so there's proof the art is mine.
My goal is to become an author, so copyright is very important to me.

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How come deleted art is still up?

Posted by SouSTAR - 2 hours ago


Maybe one day, I'll have to urgently delete my account... maybe.

I don't intend to, but when this day would come (i hope not), i want to do it properly, which urgent situations don't really give the time for.


I un-submitted a drawing this month, but it still appear in searches.

I worry that even if I hit that red button in account settings, my art would still be up, which I don't want.


Once again, I don't want to delete this account, but I don't want to see my art still up after deleting them either.


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I'm sorry :(

@chaoticallyGeneric for what? You haven't done anything wrong?

I can _guarantee_ you that all of your submissions, posts and comments would vanish when your account is deleted. I mourn the loss of thousands of helpful and constructive posts made by a user who recently left this community due to bullies.

As for the "ghost art": Log out and check if you can 'still' find it in the search. When something is un-published, the user, moderators and admins can "allegedly" still see the submission. (I did not test this myself.)

@Yatsufusa
I see, im reassured that what's deleted is deleted for good on Newgrounds.

But I'm still a bit worried about search engines. I know it's out of NG's control, but if I delete a submission (project and all), would it still appear in search engines?

I was told that we had to wait a couple weeks/ 1 month before the site get "reindexed" and the results about my deleted art, removed.

@SouSTAR There is no "one fits all" answer when it comes to online search engines. Generally, I would not expect an image to still be cached 3 months later - regardless of how the said search engine operates.

Depending on how worried you are: You 'are' the copyright holder. You can contact the search engine operator via email, point them to the version of an image they cached and politely request that they remove the image the next time they schedule a data purge.

@Yatsufasa
Okay, I understand! I really appreciate your help thank you!

And is it preferable that I ask them to remove the copyrighted images *before* I delete that acount too, or I won't have any proof that these are mine, right?

One time, a user from another website posted their art, the site closed, and after all these years the site closed, their images still appear in search for some reason, so i worry it may happen the same to me if I delete these images/account.

@SouSTAR Technically, you could request a removal 'right now' - since the image is no longer available on the original page (newgrounds.com). From their perspective, this is also about providing an up-to-date reflection of the web.

There is a meta-tag that can/should be used in HTML that is called "revisit-after". It tells human visitors and robots how often the person who created the website thought they'd be updating that particular page. Responsible people will set that tag to something appropriate for their particular website/part of their website. Everyone else claims that every single page of their site updates once per day - "because SEO-juice". Newgrounds doesn't seem to use it, but I would say, whatever you un-published will likely be gone from online search engines on its own 8 days after the fact.
If you want o make absolutely sure, you could try to find the image right now, using the search engines you are most worried about and then set bookmarks to those results.

As for the proof: You haaave-- Oh. You use neither watermark nor signature on your works. Erm... I mean, they're 'probably' not that diligent. Pointing out that they cache an image that's no longer actually hosted on the site they link to is 'probably' enough.
As long as you can provide them with an URL of where the image in question shows up on their servers.

As somewhat related aside, I think artist should put signatures on their works of art. Right now, some idiot could download half your catalogue, wait until you're gone and afterwards re-upload + claim that 'they' created all of your art without even doing any editing. Or... You know: They could just upload it to Cara or dA or Instragram or Twitter/"X" 'right now'...

I'd plan on keeping your NG account if I was in your shoes. There upload dates here are currently your best proof that 'you' are the original artist for your works.

@Yatsufusa
Thank you veeeerry much!
You greatly helped me, who don't know anything about these things!
Thank you again :)

@SouSTAR i don't know what is making you feel the need to delete this account, but i feel bad that the possible inability to get the art off of newgrounds entirely may have an effect on you somehow.

you're acting like there's incriminating evidence in your drawings or something

@MetalSlayer69
No, it's just that I have a project to be an author, but don't really know how things works.

I feel like I'm going a bit too fast, so I'm stopping uploading until I know how to protect my work correctly...

You all can still check my art but I'm not uploading anything until I know how to do these correctly. And that's I'm sure things goes *my* way, because it is *my* work.